As Barry Goldwater can tell you, or rather could have told you, the CIA does at times lie to protect itself...and Goldwater was not the only government or elected official to claim so. One needs only to read the books of Agee among many, many others to know that what Nancy Pelosi is claiming is hardly a stretch...The thing to remember is that whether the CIA or Nancy Pelosi is telling the truth of what happened some 7 years ago is NOT IMPORTANT. What is important is that former VP Cheney is now on a public relations tour to justify his and Bush's failed administration. What IS ALSO IMPORTANT is that those who approved and validated torture as American policy committed a crime. Those people should be brought to task SO THAT FUTURE AMERICAN POLITICIANS will think twice about committing the same crimes of which VP Cheney allegedly is guilty. THAT is what is important. It should never happen again. And while we are at it, could someone please point out to Liz Cheney when she falsely asserts that her father kept the American people safe for 8 years, that HE DID NOT. 9/11 happened on Dick Cheney's and George Bush's watch. He and Bush did not keep the American people safe, and the use of verafiably useless AND criminal torture techniques in no way helped to keep us safe. To the contrary, the criminal activity--alleged at this point--of men like VP Cheney actually made us less safe as those who have studied why and how such groups as Al Qaida and the Taliban have been so successful at recruiting can tell us: the useless and criminal torture used by the Bush Administration and Dick Cheney are among the major reasons for their success.